Vampiric or Sundering? - Guild Wars Forums

Puebert · Feb 26, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

What mod is better for a Sword?

I have recently come across a req 9 Dead Sword in NF and I had plans to mod it into:

Dead Sword. (Req 9)
15^50
Life Steal: 3:1
HP: 30

But when I asked my friend if he had a 15^50 inscription or a HP +30 Sword Pommel, (I had already bought the Vamp Hilt) he told me to mod it to a Sundering (Armor Penetration 20/20)

So, should I buy a Sundering Mod? Or keep with my origonal plan?

T N Player · Feb 26, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

A sundering mod is what most people use and if plan on selling it, it is much easier to sell with a sundering mod. I say you should mod it with a sundering mod even if you plan on using it.

The sundering mod is pretty expensive, but there is a reason why it is so expensive.

T N Player · Feb 26, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

srry double post

Stormlord Alex · Feb 26, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

The reason sundering is expensive is because PvE scrubs are idiots.

Vamp will do a lot more damage than sundering on a sword.

And before anyone says 'z0mg -1 degens gonna pwn me!!!!11!!one!' - you have weapon sets for a reason. Pressing F2 is *incredibly* difficult after all.

DarkGanni · Feb 26, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

Personally I would go for Vampiric

- Ganni

Neo Nugget · Feb 26, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

sundering for sell
vamp for use.

Diddy bow · Feb 26, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Vamparic will give you more damage and some healing
People see the -1 and think "oh noes" but the life steal and added damage far outweighs losing 2 hp each second :S

Sundering however i guess is fine if you dont have a weapon swap or are counting on a very lucky spike...

Hockster · Feb 26, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Sundering sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before.

ss1986v2 · Feb 26, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

as far as pve goes, vamp has the higher potential DPS. wont unnecessarily always be so (if there are lots of blinds, blocks flying around), but it doesnt really matter. you could run a CC weapon and be fine in pve. i go with vamp based almost entirely on price.

the heal0r · Feb 26, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

sundering is for those who are too lazy to switch weapons after every fight.
but sometimes i am 2^^

placebo overdose · Feb 26, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

i say vamp imo
but if you want a sundering get a non max mod. think 1% is not that different except 35k less, get a 19% chance mod

Nestaron · Feb 26, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Vampric ftw
Sundering FTSux0r

nightrunner · Feb 26, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by the heal0r

sundering is for those who are too lazy to switch weapons after every fight.

This is why it's so expensive. Sundering is for people that don't realize you can hit F2 to cancel Vamp degen if you're not getting hits in, or between fights.

ShadowsRequiem · Feb 27, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

yup sundering is crap only sundering weapon i would ever use is an axe.

but sword doesnt have a huge dmg difference 15-22 so imo vamp is wayyyyyy better

tijo · Feb 27, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

While sundering is useful and can give more damage on some weapons than avampiric these occasions are very rare making the vampiric mod more attracting if you are looking for higher damage that's stable. DPs is definitely better on a vampiric mod. Vampiric is also very useful if you use skills that hit multiple targets such as [skill]Triple Chop[/skill], [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and [skill]Barrage[/skill]

Coloneh · Feb 27, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

vampiric is WAY more damage espically on high armor targets. it also heals you.

Darkobra · Feb 27, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Vampiric for people that will change weapons when in and out of battle. (They better. Let's just say I'm a lazy monk when it comes to healing people too lazy to change weapons.)
Sundering for people that don't really care about damage and just want a rare sword.

I'd personally use either. But it comes down to these two. Sundering to sell for rarity, vampiric to take down single targets quickly.

Retribution X · Feb 27, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkobra

Vampiric for people that will change weapons when in and out of battle. (They better. Let's just say I'm a lazy monk when it comes to healing people too lazy to change weapons.)

/Agree

P.E.R.I.O.D.

And, no, if you don't swap weapons, I don't heal you.

bart · Feb 27, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

I say sundering because the -1 irritates the hell out of me.

HawkofStorms · Feb 27, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Sundering is crap. Whenever I try to explain this to somebody in game, they response is, "then why does sundering cost more then vampiric?" Answer: because sundering since it has some many possible versions (10-20%) a perfect one is rarer and thus more expensive. However, vampric is better damage wise and easier to find.

That's the only reason people think sundering is good. PvE scrubs think expensive = better.

Feb 26, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#1
Puebert Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: Mo/	Vampiric or Sundering? What mod is better for a Sword? I have recently come across a req 9 Dead Sword in NF and I had plans to mod it into: Dead Sword. (Req 9) 15^50 Life Steal: 3:1 HP: 30 But when I asked my friend if he had a 15^50 inscription or a HP +30 Sword Pommel, (I had already bought the Vamp Hilt) he told me to mod it to a Sundering (Armor Penetration 20/20) So, should I buy a Sundering Mod? Or keep with my origonal plan?

Feb 26, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#2
T N Player Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Bay Area Profession: W/	A sundering mod is what most people use and if plan on selling it, it is much easier to sell with a sundering mod. I say you should mod it with a sundering mod even if you plan on using it. The sundering mod is pretty expensive, but there is a reason why it is so expensive.

Feb 26, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24	#4
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	The reason sundering is expensive is because PvE scrubs are idiots. Vamp will do a lot more damage than sundering on a sword. And before anyone says 'z0mg -1 degens gonna pwn me!!!!11!!one!' - you have weapon sets for a reason. Pressing F2 is incredibly difficult after all.

Feb 26, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30	#5
DarkGanni Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Malta Guild: [CuTe] Profession: E/	Personally I would go for Vampiric - Ganni

Feb 26, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#6
Neo Nugget Site Contributor Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	sundering for sell vamp for use.

Feb 26, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#7
Diddy bow Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!! Guild: looking for one :p Profession: A/D	Vamparic will give you more damage and some healing People see the -1 and think "oh noes" but the life steal and added damage far outweighs losing 2 hp each second :S Sundering however i guess is fine if you dont have a weapon swap or are counting on a very lucky spike...

Feb 26, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#8
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	Sundering sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before.

Feb 26, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43	#9
ss1986v2 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/	as far as pve goes, vamp has the higher potential DPS. wont unnecessarily always be so (if there are lots of blinds, blocks flying around), but it doesnt really matter. you could run a CC weapon and be fine in pve. i go with vamp based almost entirely on price.

Feb 26, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#10
the heal0r Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: germany Guild: [CG] Profession: N/Me	sundering is for those who are too lazy to switch weapons after every fight. but sometimes i am 2^^

Feb 26, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#11
placebo overdose Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: N/	i say vamp imo but if you want a sundering get a non max mod. think 1% is not that different except 35k less, get a 19% chance mod

Feb 26, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#12
Nestaron Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Guild: Banished Dragons Profession: A/	Vampric ftw Sundering FTSux0r

Feb 27, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#14
ShadowsRequiem Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] ToA Profession: W/E	yup sundering is crap only sundering weapon i would ever use is an axe. but sword doesnt have a huge dmg difference 15-22 so imo vamp is wayyyyyy better

Feb 27, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#15
tijo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montreal Guild: [CDDR] Profession: R/	While sundering is useful and can give more damage on some weapons than avampiric these occasions are very rare making the vampiric mod more attracting if you are looking for higher damage that's stable. DPs is definitely better on a vampiric mod. Vampiric is also very useful if you use skills that hit multiple targets such as [skill]Triple Chop[/skill], [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and [skill]Barrage[/skill]

Feb 27, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39	#16
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	vampiric is WAY more damage espically on high armor targets. it also heals you.

Feb 27, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10	#17
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Vampiric for people that will change weapons when in and out of battle. (They better. Let's just say I'm a lazy monk when it comes to healing people too lazy to change weapons.) Sundering for people that don't really care about damage and just want a rare sword. I'd personally use either. But it comes down to these two. Sundering to sell for rarity, vampiric to take down single targets quickly.

Feb 27, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36	#19
bart Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	I say sundering because the -1 irritates the hell out of me.

Feb 27, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#20
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Sundering is crap. Whenever I try to explain this to somebody in game, they response is, "then why does sundering cost more then vampiric?" Answer: because sundering since it has some many possible versions (10-20%) a perfect one is rarer and thus more expensive. However, vampric is better damage wise and easier to find. That's the only reason people think sundering is good. PvE scrubs think expensive = better.